tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post2942288803187006172..comments2023-08-18T10:14:37.977-05:00Comments on WhenEvilProspers: John Washburnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04182558340478176184noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-69613047147453583662008-06-12T10:38:00.000-05:002008-06-12T10:38:00.000-05:00Doc,Again, whereas I detest Ahmadinejad (please ad...Doc,<BR/><BR/>Again, whereas I detest Ahmadinejad (please add Hugo Chavez; Robert Mugabe; the Burmese junta; and the guy running Belarus to my list) he is the leader of Iran.<BR/><BR/>I believe we need to foil his major policies which include obtaining nuclear power and weapons and the export of "the Iranian revolution" but to do so, as the president says "all options are on the table."<BR/><BR/>One of those options is talking to him, if only to keep him w/in range.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, I believe that we should have invaded Burma by sending in relief supplies and workers, despite the junta's lack of permission.<BR/><BR/>The whole world (except for despots like those mentioned above) would have stood up and cheered. W/ the olympics approaching, China would never have interfered.<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-90423040190488755292008-06-12T01:13:00.000-05:002008-06-12T01:13:00.000-05:00Loopie Ga-roopie,When That Cow ate the cabbage, th...Loopie Ga-roopie,<BR/><BR/>When That Cow ate the cabbage, the poor beast developed an enourmous amount of foul-smelling gas.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps That Cow, and some other arrogant types, fond of giving worthless advise, should not attempt to create an informative weblog; they would surely fail.<BR/><BR/>My Dad was a Lifelong Democrat; I was a Democrat too. I've come to dislike labels, and am much more content with "INDEPENDENT"!<BR/><BR/>Like Republicans, they each have many fine people, and also some easily deceived souls in both main groupings. The human brain is a complex thing subject to both negative & positive input.<BR/><BR/>Shrewd Manipulators (you are not one of them) know the methods that can turn the most suggestable into bleating sheep, and away from the basics, the Positive Fundamentals.<BR/>You can see them at well-funded political rallies, waving signs, and maybe a free bumper-sticker!<BR/><BR/>The S/H blog attempts to deliver an antidote to those poisoned by negative suggestion. If you need a sample of these hate-mongers, they too have websites, and Loop could provide them with his mindless Cabbages & Cows rhetoric, deflect them from their hate-mongering activities that seek to demean, manipulate and destroy all hope of thoughtful analysis.<BR/><BR/>Go to Huffington Post, she's a prominent hate-monger, and also your intellectual equal; Tell Her All About Your Cow!<BR/><BR/>Nit-pick her site, destract her from her evil ways. Give Ms Arriana your best shot. Now that would be a service to your country that we can all appreciate!<BR/><BR/>>><BR/><BR/>My next post in gonna be a dandy; The author raps Both Parties, for their Do-Nothing Congress. It's about "Greenie" Negativity.<BR/><BR/>>><BR/><BR/>Sorry John, this Lumpy, Tattered, Empty Wig will not give it up. reb<BR/>_________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.com<BR/>_________________________________SNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-75085833455989818692008-06-12T00:16:00.000-05:002008-06-12T00:16:00.000-05:00Emilie,The problem with talks is the legitimizing ...Emilie,<BR/><BR/>The problem with talks is the legitimizing of the regime. Of course Ahmadinejad would meet with Obama, it would show his people that EVEN the US president acknowledges his power and position of authority. That decreases the possibility of regime change. <BR/><BR/>We don't have to talk to Ahmadinejad or any other terrorist in order to convey our message. It's clear. He must stop his nuclear weapons program at once. That's the condition that he must meet before we legitimize him as a world leader.John Washburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04182558340478176184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-43804041343137971152008-06-11T14:24:00.000-05:002008-06-11T14:24:00.000-05:00Dear reb,I hope your felt better after writting th...Dear reb,<BR/><BR/>I hope your felt better after writting the above.<BR/><BR/>Let me tell you how the cow ate the cabbage. I can only hope you appreciate it notwithstanding your apparent descent into lunacy.<BR/><BR/>1. The are too many blogs. We need fewer not more. Just b/c one has a computer and access to the internet does not mean one has something to say that is worth reading.<BR/><BR/>2. I boycott blogs that censor comments b/c of content. There are certain truths about e-mail. Once you press the "send" button you can't get back that which mailed. Once you press the "delete" button on your weblog and remove someone's comment b/c of content, then you have ceased being one person and begun being another.<BR/><BR/>2. I checked your last posting. There have been only 18 comments in 11 days of which only 5 have not been posted by you. Now, instead of commenting about mullahs you are attempting to ridicule Democrats.<BR/><BR/>I will give you a piece of advice. The first is, whenever you are working at 2:00 a.m. and you write something you think is hilarious, don't post it immediately. Read it at noon and determine whether it is as funnny as you first thought.<BR/><BR/>As for your comments above, they would have been hurtful several months ago when I still respected your opinion.<BR/><BR/>Regards.<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-69582155661476229892008-06-11T00:39:00.000-05:002008-06-11T00:39:00.000-05:00Emilie, in your third paragraph you suggest 'talks...Emilie, in your third paragraph you suggest 'talks' at Camp David might possibly produce something positive; a "nothing ventured, nothing gained" approach. I would empathize with you, and that strategy indeed has some merit, when dealing with any rational major power.<BR/><BR/>However, negotiations with IRAN is<BR/>simply a dead-end, non-winner for two important reasons:<BR/><BR/>a) It Gives These Mullahs an elevated, unearned prestige and stature among nations of the world.<BR/><BR/>b) There Is No Hope Whatsoever that any "talks" would result in their Abandonment Of The "Madhi Prophesy". It's Shia Islam's "Holy Grail". The Return of the Madhi, the 12th Imam, is their Pillar of Truth, their proof of superiority over the Sunni/Wahhabi of Arabia!<BR/><BR/>They join with the Sunni only as a Modus Vivende, a 'temporary arrangement' to Kill Jews. Note: In Palestine Today, the Hamas & Fatah kiil each other! Why? Hamas is an Iranian funded puppet; Fatah is a Saudi Arabian surrogate! It's very complex, but well worth your time to study this, before you begin with your own web-site. Intractable Killers? You can bet your life that negotiating with these types is a fantasy, a quite improbable dream.<BR/><BR/>The Egyptian President, Anwar Sadat died in the attempt. Jimmy Carter persuaded Sadat to make peace with the Jews. He tried, and the negotiation led him directly into his early grave. <BR/><BR/>Obama's stated hope for a rappoachment with Iran is pure juvenile, immature folly. Breeching Pakistan's Sovereign Border to get bin Laden is another Obama flub, exposing immaturity. Imagine a serious crisis, and this fellow sitting in the Oval Office as our Commander-In-Chief!<BR/><BR/>Obama-Mania chatter is scary enough to spin heads in the Pentagon. Dare we risk it...in that insane region?<BR/> <BR/>I think not. reb<BR/>__________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-14471510991813581762008-06-10T17:53:00.000-05:002008-06-10T17:53:00.000-05:00Dr. Washburn,A lot of comments have been posted to...Dr. Washburn,<BR/><BR/>A lot of comments have been posted to your post here about Obama's intentions to "talk" to Ahmed-in-a-jar, but all I see is the hour the comment was posted. Is there some way I could see the date of the comments also? It seems the comments have continued over several days.<BR/><BR/>As for the topic, (I guess I am way late on this again) I am now confused since it went from whether Obama should talk to "terrorists" or not, even if one is a hated president of "rogue" nation. I think our President should invite talks, even if they don't result in a peaceful settlement. At least we tried. <BR/><BR/>Why couldn't Obama (if he should become President, which I think he won't be) hold talks at Camp David the way other presidents have done, the way Clinton did in trying to effect a peace in the Middle East by holding talks with the Israeli and Palestinian leaders together. <BR/><BR/>Clinton told the Palestinian that he had single-handedly ruined his legacy by not keeping the peace. And didn't the regime of the other guy get changed with his assassination by his own people because of those talks? I also remember the regime of the Egyptian that had been involved in peace talks ended when he got assassinated, also by his own people. <BR/><BR/>With such a history, would Ahmed-in-a-jar still want to "talk" to the respresentative of Big Satan? Has he indicated he wants to "talk"? I know he was anxious to make a speech to Americans last year, and he was invited to a college to speak, only to be ridiculed. <BR/><BR/>I still say you can't talk to religious zealots. We can't effect a regime change in Iran by campaigning for human rights, clandestinely supporting dissidents, promoting democracy, or declaring their regime illegitimate. The only human rights they believe in are those under Sharia law, they imprison or kill their dissidents, and they truly believe that Islam is democracy itself. <BR/><BR/>We interfered before in Iran by setting up the Shah on the ancient Peacock throne as a "democratic" leader, but his regime was overthrown and he was lucky not to have been assassinated. Now they feel that they are on their way to their dream of a world-wide Caliphate and converting the world to the only "true" religion, Islam. <BR/><BR/>So, no, regime change does not always work to our advantage. Islamic militants will have their tribal battles amongst themselves as they always have, and assassinate each other, and in the meantime the rest of the world can just try to contain them economically and stay ahead of them in military intelligence as Israel is trying to do. We just need to support Israel, as Iran supports Iraqi and Palestinian "resisters" (they refuse to call them "terorists") to the great and little Satans. <BR/><BR/>About Obama: Should he get elected, how long before he would get taken out as JFK was? Some still believe the JFK assassination was planned by the oil barons in Texas who were against his regime of civil rights and oversight of big industy, etc. I remember the hateful posters on the motorcade, even Lady Bird was shoved and was spat on. I talk to many blacks who think Obama's life won't be worth a plugged nickel if he ascends to the Presidency, since he is not only a liberal, he is a black one. (Gen. Powell refused to run for Pres because his wife was so afraid he would be assassinated for being black, and he was a Republican). Regime change indeed. <BR/><BR/>Most of us here will die of old age before many of the world's dictators' regimes are "changed". Those guys suffer from megalomania and stay in power for life; thank goodness we can have a regime change every eight years, even if some feel there shouldn't be. Maybe we will have a change, maybe we won't. Can hardly wait to see how it all turns out.<BR/><BR/>Emilie<BR/>Port Orchard, WAAuntyemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00178076598997617829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-45760985273422965792008-06-10T14:35:00.000-05:002008-06-10T14:35:00.000-05:00Loop, a few days ago, you began with "Lack Of Cour...Loop, a few days ago, you began with "Lack Of Courage has nothing to do with my absence..."<BR/><BR/>Sir. Your alleged 'Lack of Courage'<BR/>is in evidence daily, with your unwillingness, your timidity, your obvious 'lack of courage' to Post A Left-Wing Blog, then vigorously defend your 'Left of Center' positions.<BR/><BR/>We Admire Courage; We Enjoy The Open Forum Give & Take. Yankee Commentary, WhenEvilProspers, The Redhunter, Winfred Mann, and Prof Donald Douglas are all valued Snake Hunter Links. They All Assume<BR/>RESPONSIBILITY For Their Content.<BR/><BR/>Should Loop Garoo Ever Summon Up The Courage to Post a Website, I'd be delighted to provide Linkage. "Fair & Balanced" is a Slogan we can all believe in! Loop can dish it out in multiples, but he can't take a counter-punch. He has a fragile, 'glass-jaw'.<BR/><BR/>So Alas, I don't think Loop Garoo has the Necessary Back-bone...Loop is a Jelly-Fish! Lots of Poisonous Sting, But No Visible Spine! reb<BR/>_________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-36407824064499957612008-06-10T13:14:00.000-05:002008-06-10T13:14:00.000-05:00HISTORICAL REALITY________________________________...HISTORICAL REALITY<BR/>__________________________________<BR/><BR/>In the 1930's a Monster surfaced on the European Scene. Adolph Hitler wrote a 300-page book, Mein Kampf, telling the world exactly what he intended to do. Europe Shrugged, and 40 Plus Million Died in a dozen countries!<BR/><BR/>The Servant of Appeasement, Neville Chamblerlain prattled about "Peace In Our Time" as Winston Churchill frowned, and tried to issue a warning in 1938.<BR/>> <BR/>Anyone see today's parallel?<BR/>><BR/>Today, in the 21st Century, we are witness to another Gathering Storm. Sunni-Wahhabism & Shiite<BR/>Persia (IRAN) are on the march under the Banner of Sharia Law. The Flag of The Moon-God of the Kaba has replaced the crooked Nazi Cross!<BR/><BR/>After the successful assault on our Embassy in Terhan on Nov 4, 1979, there followed a series of bombings from Beirut to widely scattered locations around the world. An excitable, Angry Islamic Kill-culture had long been dormant. Now Emboldened, they began their Planned Offensive Jihad<BR/>upon a complacent, peaceful and secular (infidel) world. They export cadres of their followers<BR/>to populate the heathen enemy's cities; they establish Enclaves & "Holy" Mosques, everywhere!<BR/>>><BR/>And our people invent "Talking Points".<BR/>>><BR/>The world was startled, and many cheered when the New York Twin Towers Fell on September 11, 2001, and 2973 innocents died on that sunny morn.<BR/><BR/>We Had Been Warned! We shrugged and hit the "snooze-button" of our minds. <BR/><BR/>Bush/Cheney Approval Rating shot up to 71 Percent; all was well once again; or was it? "Peace Banners" were unfurled. 'Code Pink' & "United For Peace & Justice", a Communist Front, was ready to began a long & brilliantly executed plan to demean "DUBYA"<BR/>and ridicule U.S. Leadership. They deployed "Campus Organizers" across the nation to enlist the gullible youth clubs, supplying Peace Signs, Slogans, and bumper-stickers. Many hundreds of millions of dollars were spent in the next 6 yrs & nine months to sap the will of the U.S., and today, Bush/Cheney is at 28 Percent Approval. The Hate Campaigns were hugely successful.<BR/><BR/>Bush Lied! "Impeach Bush/Cheney"<BR/><BR/>The Nabobs of Negativity Had Achieved their Goal of dividing us,<BR/>splintering our will to confront an intractable, determined suicidal enemy.<BR/><BR/>In 2007, Iranian spokesman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad clearly stated that Iran would "Wipe Israel Off the Map." Again, The world shrugged & Yawned.<BR/>>><BR/><BR/>Here at home, the Soros Machine Selected a smooth talking parrot, Barry Obama. He now hoists the blue banners of "Change" and 'New Direction', and listens to the sweet chants of "Yes We Can!", and promises to "bring our troops home" quickly, as his minions sign up a youthful army of enthusiastic & gullible first-time voters.<BR/><BR/>And Loop Garoo Knows All Of This! He's a smart lawyer-type, that chooses not to hide his true feelings, but to expand them. He fashions "new" talking points, and Ridicules & "boycotts" an old fellow that attempts to Inform & Alert a Sleepy, Nonchalant Citizenry.<BR/><BR/>IGNOR.ANCE Of DEADLY PERIL Is A Wasteful, Ego-driven, Stupid-Ass Thing. reb<BR/>__________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-14736203705065137962008-06-10T11:57:00.000-05:002008-06-10T11:57:00.000-05:00reb,"YOU CENSOR, ME GONE."It is as simple as that....reb,<BR/><BR/>"YOU CENSOR, ME GONE."<BR/><BR/>It is as simple as that. It's one thing to maintain a profanoity and advertisement free site. It's another to delete comments w/ which you disagree (see Yankee Doodle and Winfred Mann) or the edit or alter its content. (See SH)<BR/><BR/>"How will my humble Snake Hunters ever survive...?" It will survive but have you noticed the tenor of comments since Emilie and I departed? It's all "atta boy" stuff. So you are the master of your domain. In my opinion, your domain has become a less interesting place b/c people like me won't visit or comment b/c your rules for commneting are arbitrary and capricious. You say your rules are not so but ultimately when you delete a comment w/ which you disagree, or b/c it "attacks" you pointing out the inconsitancy of your behavior, then "L'etat c'est vous." <BR/><BR/>Enjoy.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, so far as Mohamed is concerned, I will keep my own consel.<BR/><BR/>As for Obamamania, I fear it has affected you far more than me. I was merely contar Hillary Clinton. I thinks ometimes the most qualified candidates never made it out of the gates.<BR/><BR/>Regards.<BR/><BR/>The Loop Garoo KidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-62769330868098804732008-06-09T22:52:00.000-05:002008-06-09T22:52:00.000-05:00Snake Hunter Sez,Loop Garoo,We have both attempted...Snake Hunter Sez,<BR/><BR/>Loop Garoo,<BR/><BR/>We have both attempted Logic & Reason on Mohamed Fadly's Blog.<BR/><BR/>He's A Muslim! You are "Guest".<BR/><BR/>You began there, in reasonable style explaining Palestinian History, then as you are prone to do, you turn to unkind ridicule, and apply too much pressure, ending all hope of serious dialogue. In your last comment, you called Mohamed a FOOL. (That does not encourage a valid response).<BR/><BR/>So, outsmarting you, he doesn't Delete the Insult, he leaves you hanging there, exposing your vain arrogance!<BR/>>><BR/>You're a Blog-bully, Loop Garoo!<BR/>>><BR/>You, Boycotting Me? I'm Terrified!<BR/>How will my humble Snake Hunters Effort ever survive without your occasional insult, that feeds into your superb posturing, your pedantic arrogance?<BR/><BR/>Anyone reading this can simply go to Feb/March Posts to sample the exchange. I politely requested that<BR/>both you and that Lady from Washington...Stay On Point, and be more CONCISE. Four Warnings, Loop!<BR/><BR/>Then, I Deleted Both, It's My Domain.<BR/>ME BLOGGER ~ YOU "Guest"!<BR/><BR/>Observe the Rules, you're always welcome, of course. Flaunt them, and the world suffers the loss of your brilliance, your vast knowledge, AND charming mannerisms!<BR/>>> <BR/>Now you attack me on Dr Washburn's Site, playing the victim! (He also has sampled your crudeness). Come back for a visit after Nov 4th, Loop. I think the stress of Obama-Mania may have seriously impacted a fine legal mind.<BR/><BR/>Now, I must apologize for both of us...Sorry, Dr John. reb<BR/>_________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-23838830158347823572008-06-09T10:31:00.000-05:002008-06-09T10:31:00.000-05:00reb,Lack of courage has nothing to do with my abse...reb,<BR/><BR/>Lack of courage has nothing to do with my absence from your site. In case you have forgotten, I am boycotting your blog because you censored it in a way that I found to be unacceptable to me. You have renderd your site a safe haven for intellectual lightweights like Winfred Mann and you are fortuanate that TRH chooses to visit from time to time.<BR/><BR/>As for Mohamed, again you display behavior that is quite puzzling to me. Whereas on th eone hand, you seek to warn us all regarding the "kill culture" of Islam on the other you seek to engage Mohamed as if he is somehow different.<BR/><BR/>Mohamed is an Egyptian. There have been riots there over the cost of bread. Yey Mohamed, rather than evincing concern for his fellow Egyptians, languishes over the plight of the Plaestinians and when confronted wuth the unviability of any of his positions, he ignores the questions.<BR/><BR/>I do not seek to engage him. I will merely point out the invalidity of his postions to his readers.<BR/><BR/>Regards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-5031735528969367262008-06-06T23:34:00.000-05:002008-06-06T23:34:00.000-05:00The Loop Garoo Kid,Why is Mohamed so Intractable?I...The Loop Garoo Kid,<BR/><BR/>Why is Mohamed so Intractable?<BR/><BR/>It's probably because you go to Mohamed Fadly's blog, and call him a "fool", rather than coax him here on American Blogs to explain his 'Islam Truth' position.<BR/><BR/>Vinegar attacts nobody.<BR/><BR/>Why doesn't Loop Garoo have the courage to answer Amil Imani, the American/Iranian on S/H June 1st Post?<BR/> I would not dare to interfere with that exchange. It's tailor-made for TLGK! reb<BR/>_________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-83688924836364322242008-06-01T20:05:00.000-05:002008-06-01T20:05:00.000-05:00The PsychoMetrics of Denialis in evidence here, an...The PsychoMetrics of Denial<BR/><BR/>is in evidence here, and nothing anyone can say, no amount of hard evidence will alter or convince the Committed Left of Center Viewer that he is anything but 100% Correct in his Partisan View.<BR/><BR/>So, in Frustration Extra-ordinaire,<BR/>I weary of your tired lamentations, and I refer you to another author, an Iranian National on our June 1st Post! Go there, Loop Garoo, and make your best effort Directly To Him. His name is Amil Imani. The Post Is...<BR/><BR/>"A Mullah Reality Check"<BR/><BR/>Your friend, reb<BR/>__________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-24518334204194831732008-06-01T12:30:00.000-05:002008-06-01T12:30:00.000-05:00reb,Your essential issues are that you seem comple...reb,<BR/><BR/>Your essential issues are that you seem completely unable to step outside yourself and view yourself as others do. By implication, you are completely unable to view the United Staes as others, whether they be enemies or friends view us. Do you know what the Muslim view of a crusader is?<BR/><BR/>Your other issue is that you are completely unable to recognize that the actions and methods you decry in others are actions and methoids you promote in furtherance of your philosophy.<BR/><BR/>Consider these issues.<BR/><BR/>One more question. Why is Mohamed so intractable?<BR/><BR/>Regards.<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-86204484257805950762008-05-31T11:07:00.000-05:002008-05-31T11:07:00.000-05:00reb,Once again, you have failed to consider the se...reb,<BR/><BR/>Once again, you have failed to consider the second move; and the third and the one after that.<BR/><BR/>You have failed to consider the kind of country that you wish to inhabit and the type of globe you wish to inhabit.<BR/><BR/>Your philosophy gives creedance to the jihadists' fear of crusaders.<BR/><BR/>Tell me. What is the difference between an endless jihad and a perpetual crusade?<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-47291033596377533712008-05-31T01:39:00.000-05:002008-05-31T01:39:00.000-05:00Loop Garoo & Dr Washburn are content to wait for s...Loop Garoo & Dr Washburn are content to wait for some brave, young Iranians to begin a movement,<BR/>(suicidal) while a vague Freedom Coalition imposes "Restrictions" and "Isolation" on Iranian Leadership. All the while, China, Syria and Russia are making sure that Iran is not too uncomfortable in their so-called "Isolation".<BR/><BR/>We have the ability to castrate these thugs with over-whelming force in 48 hours; Israel will not, cannot wait much longer; they BELIEVE goofy Ahmadinejad. <BR/><BR/>I've asked YOU to make a choice, Loop. You have chosen INACTION. Obama chooses "Negotiation".<BR/>Where's RedHunter, You out there Tom? <BR/><BR/>The nuke clock is ticking. reb<BR/>__________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-6871158516048509232008-05-30T19:40:00.000-05:002008-05-30T19:40:00.000-05:00"We're tired of the old, imperialist, patriarchal,..."We're tired of the old, imperialist, patriarchal, "We'll decide what's best for everyone else" way of doing things"<BR/><BR/>Dan, to hear a Left-leaning person say something like this is rather entertaining, and laughable. The Dem party's motto should be "vote for us and we'll take care of you". Nobody personifies that better than Obama. And yet you seem to take offense at patriarchal types? I don't get it.<BR/><BR/>As for Iran, Obama couldn't be more wrong. Yes, our policy towards Iran is regime change. THe current regime is dangerous and represents a threat to world peace, therefore it must be changed. One way to do that is internally, by way of the Iranian people themselves. We must let the people become disgruntled and frustrated with the current regime.<BR/><BR/>Part of doing that involves ISOLATION of Iran. We reduce trade, reduce communication, and don't acknowledge their legitimacy on the international stage. Despite what some say, they DON'T "have" to be dealt with. We've succeeded at isolating Iran and the Iranian people will eventually tire of it and, hopefully, turn on the regime. This is one way to bring about regime change.<BR/><BR/>The moment Obama meets with Ahmadinejad that is all flushed. That's when Iran is no longer isolated and becomes recognized in the international stage.<BR/><BR/>It would be a catastrophic mistake. Obama's inexperience is what keeps him from seeing that. Such inexperience is too dangerous for the highest office in the world. Being a "good organizer" isn't enough to offset that.John Washburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04182558340478176184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-85280210223384041792008-05-30T12:20:00.000-05:002008-05-30T12:20:00.000-05:00reb,Let us start w/ the suggestion of bombing the ...reb,<BR/><BR/>Let us start w/ the suggestion of bombing the refinery. Whereas it accomplishes the immediate objective of destrying Iran's capacity to produce gasoline, what else does it do?<BR/><BR/>1. The acts of war that Iran has committed against us and against our forces in Iraq and against others--which acts need not be documented here--are indirect. Bombing another country (rmemebr Pearl Harbor?) is a direct act of war. So the first question is,are we prepared to fight a war gainst Iran?<BR/><BR/>2. You seem to think that the disaffected in Iran have the capacity to change the regime. Why do you think so? The IRG is armed to the teeth and rather resembles the PRC of a generation ago. Add to that, the fact that committing a direct act of war against a country tends to convert its disaffected into patriots.<BR/><BR/>3. I cannot say that bombing Iran's weapons sites does not have some appeal except for one problem. How good is our intelligence. Do we know where the facilities are located?<BR/><BR/>Basically your idea that we should effect a regime change is a good one. Your ideas on how to accomplish that regime change would be very unlikely to succeed.<BR/><BR/>Life for the average Iranian has its challenges. The more we can show them of our open society, the more Iranians will want to abandon spending their revenue on the revolution in favor of domestic spending.<BR/><BR/>One more point. If we were to bomb any Iranian installation, what would prevent Iran from declaring open season on the U.S. and its citizens?<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-65176307041312349402008-05-30T12:06:00.000-05:002008-05-30T12:06:00.000-05:00reb,Let us start w/ the suggestion of bombing the ...reb,<BR/><BR/>Let us start w/ the suggestion of bombing the refinery. Whereas it accomplishes the immediate objective of destrying Iran's capacity to produce gasoline, what else does it do?<BR/><BR/>1. The acts of war that Iran has committed against us and against our forces in Iraq and against others--which acts need not be documented here--are indirect. Bombing another country (rmemebr Pearl Harbor?) is a direct act of war. So the first question is,are we prepared to fight a war gainst Iran?<BR/><BR/>2. You seem to think that the disaffected in Iran have the capacity to change the regime. Why do you think so? The IRG is armed to the teeth and rather resembles the PRC of a generation ago. Add to that, the fact that committing a direct act of war against a country tends to convert its disaffected into patriots.<BR/><BR/>3. I cannot say that bombing Iran's weapons sites does not have some appeal except for one problem. How good is our intelligence. Do we know where the facilities are located?<BR/><BR/>Basically your idea that we should effect a regime change is a good one. Your ideas on how to accomplish that regime change would be very unlikely to succeed.<BR/><BR/>Life for the average Iranian has its challenges. The more we can show them of our open society, the more Iranians will want to abandon spending their revenue on the revolution in favor of domestic spending.<BR/><BR/>One more point. If we were to bomb any Iranian installation, what would prevent Iran from declaring open season on the U.S. and its citizens?<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-44382082463631661172008-05-29T15:19:00.000-05:002008-05-29T15:19:00.000-05:00Loop Garoo,You Demand That I Repeat a LogicalSolut...Loop Garoo,<BR/><BR/>You Demand That I Repeat a Logical<BR/>Solution, rather than add a single<BR/>voice to the Merry-go-round of Left<BR/>and Right Partisan Bickering; <BR/> Very well, One More Time:<BR/><BR/>a) Yes, Eliminate Iran's Single Gasoline Refinery & Storage Facilities (Gingrich says: "let 'em walk to their next war.")<BR/><BR/>b) Obliterate Iran's Underground Nuclear Labs BEFORE they can produce a single catastrophic weapon, to pass on to a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, i.e. al Queda, or more likely Hezbollah.<BR/><BR/>>><BR/><BR/>The Physical Destruction of IRAN's Capability to Threaten their Middle East neighbors, Continental<BR/>Europe and North America (I have never suggested an invasion, but merely excising a malignancy) may arguably be only a temporary solution to This Madness of Radical, Offensive Jihad Lunacy, it merely accomplishes a Singular Objective...Regime Change, with little 'Collateral Damage' to an innocent civilian population (a youthful, more secular, educated nation) allowing for Hope, CHANGE,<BR/>and a 'New Direction'.<BR/><BR/>>><BR/><BR/>Now then, Loop Garoo being far more sophisicated in vague nuances and skilled polemics than most of us, I leave it to YOU to weigh in the balance the risks...of Action Vs Inaction.<BR/><BR/>Your friend, reb<BR/>_________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-76301856287234513362008-05-29T11:47:00.000-05:002008-05-29T11:47:00.000-05:00Screw you reb. Do you want to begin a series of a...Screw you reb. Do you want to begin a series of ad hominem attacks? Stop repeating the obvious and suggest a solution. Your commments are blather.<BR/><BR/>How do you effect a regime change in a country where the people you are attempting to supplant have all the weapons?<BR/><BR/>Newt Gingrich's suggestion about bombing the refinery has merit except that doing so would constitute an act of war and we not longer able to fight another war.<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-7433391302582313872008-05-29T00:10:00.000-05:002008-05-29T00:10:00.000-05:00Loop Garoo knows my views quite well, yet he offer...Loop Garoo knows my views quite well, yet he offers no solutions; that would be too risky.<BR/><BR/>Iran kills our troopers every day with sophisticated IED's, and they infiltrate military personnel into Shia tribal areas, waiting for<BR/>that grand day for deliberate action, when U.S. politicians force a redeployment before their mission achieves a stable Iraqi Force, capable of national self-defense.<BR/>>><BR/>We have been at war with Iran since<BR/>1979 and too few young Americans know that.<BR/><BR/>Our Goal Must Seek Regime Change, for there are no viable options, and my friend Loop Garoo knows that too. He Has Never Publicly Endorsed "Negotiating" With These Fanatical Killers. He knows.<BR/><BR/>Loop Knows That They Are A Deeply Committed Kill-Culture, they will not be deterred with WORDS, and that Time Is Of The Essence; that they enrich Uranium to fulfill their Hideous Madhi Prophesy.<BR/><BR/>Loop Is A Lawyer, and he enjoys WORDS, and pussy-footing around!<BR/><BR/>IF we succeed in de-fanging the Snake, Loop will use it as Exhibit "A" on a Lecture Tour, and having learned all about the 'politics of war' from knowledgable bloggers like The Redhunter, he'll eventually renounce Appeasement, and write a Guest Editorial for the Rocky Mountain News...about "Peace & Justice", and Winning the War Opposing Global Jihad!<BR/><BR/>In Loop's Dotage, he will become...A Republican Alderman from a small Colorado mining town, and be highly regarded by his peers, as he finally fades away into the sunset...even as You and I will, one day. reb<BR/>__________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-39892415620392372562008-05-28T07:50:00.000-05:002008-05-28T07:50:00.000-05:00reb,And your suggestion re dealing w/ the problem ...reb,<BR/><BR/>And your suggestion re dealing w/ the problem are?<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-52896810855172448352008-05-27T23:28:00.000-05:002008-05-27T23:28:00.000-05:00Partisan Political High-Jinks!O.K., Count me in, I...Partisan Political High-Jinks!<BR/>O.K., Count me in, I'll play.<BR/>__________________________________<BR/><BR/>Ronald Reagan: "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party Left Me!"<BR/>>><BR/>On John F. Kennedy 1960 Inaugural, our president displayed a 'Profile In Courage' with these words:<BR/><BR/>"We will pay any price, bear any burden, endure any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival of Freedom."<BR/>>><BR/>Barry Goldwater, 1964: "Extremism,<BR/>In the Defense Of Liberty Is No Vice!"<BR/>>><BR/>Adolph Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf", telling the world in advance, his intentions. Only a few were listening. Forty million, in a dozen countries...perished in World War II.<BR/>>><BR/>In the 21 Century, a New Persian Empire has again given the world advance notice of their plan to bring back from the dead the 12th Imam, their "Madhi" Prophet to Rule This Planet with The Qur'an's Sharia Law. Iranian Shia Prophesy believes that After a great war, sweeping 'Little Satan' (Israel) into the sea; then on to Europe, and finally "Big Satan!"<BR/><BR/>Again, too few are listening.<BR/>>><BR/>Knowing The Enemy At Home...and abroad, has become this great nation's epic challenge, and a solemn duty.<BR/>>> <BR/>They enrich U-235 as we quibble and discuss the dubious merits of 'negotiating' with a Suicidal Kill-Culture. reb<BR/>________________________________<BR/>www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.comSNAKE HUNTERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08945335226579435368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-21038366541462169822008-05-27T15:19:00.000-05:002008-05-27T15:19:00.000-05:00Tom,I think you are operating on the horns of a di...Tom,<BR/><BR/>I think you are operating on the horns of a dilemma, or perhaps a dichotomy. If you wish to promote a regime change in Iran, there is no point in taking the high road and not talking to them. One need only look at the the United State's Cuba policy to determine the shortcomings of attempting to isolate the enemy.<BR/><BR/>There are at least three factions in Iran. The mullahs--Lord deliver us: the president and the Iranian Guards (see PLA) and their cronies who are proponents of the ongoing Islamic Revolution which is specifically designed to 1. promote a path that guarantees there will never be peace anywhere, starting w/ the Middle East; and 2. the quash all dissent, particularly that of the young, middle class, and educated, who cannot fid jobs, or marry, or buy their starter home in the Tehran suburbs b/c the Amadinejad crowd is spending every available rial not to better the lived of Joe Farsi but to support Hezbollah, Hamas, etc.<BR/><BR/>If recent history has taught us anything, it is that when the despots in power have all the weapons, isolating them economically and politically is a recipe for failure when it comes to promoting regime change. Albert Einstein once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Cuba; Iraq; North Korea; Zimbabwe; Sudan.<BR/><BR/>Therefore, I suggest a different approach. Let us extend our hand in friendship, clasping Iran's b/f stabbing them w/ the Crocodile Dundee knife, hidden behind our back. Or let us replay the scene from The Godfather, the one were Luca Brasi has his hand pinned to the bar w/ a stiletto, allowing Turk Solazzo's henchmen to garrote him. <BR/><BR/>To enact these metaphors means a complete abandonment of our self proclaimed "Nation of Laws" ethos in favor of a more pragmatic approach to international relations whose goal is the survival of western culture, but there is the divergence of the two roads in the yellow wood.<BR/><BR/>Regards.<BR/><BR/>TLGKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com