tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post1847987772292030989..comments2023-08-18T10:14:37.977-05:00Comments on WhenEvilProspers: Good point, NewtJohn Washburnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04182558340478176184noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-43802161667250896322007-01-29T11:38:00.000-06:002007-01-29T11:38:00.000-06:00I repeat:
"And if we are awkward in going about t...I repeat:<br /><br />"And if we are awkward in going about trying to fix what Bush and Saddam have broken, keep in mind who broke it and don't blame those trying to fix it."<br /><br />Our exit strategy (if I were in charge - and there are many thoughts exactly because there's not a clear-cut way to put the egg back together):<br /><br />1. Apologize for our mistakes<br />2. Ask for world support in withdrawing our forces and figuring out what best to do as we leave<br />3. Leave.<br />4. Offer what support we can when asked by Iraq and the world<br /><br />We made a mistake in going in the way we did. That being the case, we have to own up to that and ask for support. <br /><br />But we must understand that there will be no great answers. Sort of like offering to fix my daughter's toy after having stepped on it and breaking it...I apologize and fix it the best I can, but it won't be put a-right.Dan Trabuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00019224997786558005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-77280180432008544692007-01-26T20:32:00.000-06:002007-01-26T20:32:00.000-06:00You gave reasons to get out, but still no "exit st...You gave reasons to get out, but still no "exit strategy" for dealing with the defeat. Seems to me that if you're going to accuse Bush of being reckless in going into Iraq without a plan to win the peace, then maybe those who are advocating cut-and-run policy should be held to the same standard.John Washburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04182558340478176184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077080.post-19497138777854374672007-01-25T23:07:00.000-06:002007-01-25T23:07:00.000-06:00"And I think he's right, those who want us to cut ..."And I think he's right, those who want us to cut and run DO have an obligation to explain their plan for dealing with the defeat."<br /><br />I think it's a fair question, too, although the wording is skewed. If a child has been throwing light bulbs down and breaking them, it is not "cutting and running" to ask the child to stop breaking the bulbs.<br /><br />Having said that, here are my initial thoughts that I believe are echoed by some but not all who are opposed to Bush's policies (part of the problem of breaking things is that there's often no clear-cut way to "fix" them).<br /><br />1. Some of us think that part of the reason the fighting is happening in Iraq is because of US presence. Many Iraqis don't want an occupying army in their country. <br /><br />Entirely understandable, we wouldn't either. The majority of Iraqis have already said they want us to leave. What happened to democracy? To self-determination?<br /><br />2. Some of us think that part of the problem is that we invaded a sovereign nation without a plan to win and we've "broken" Iraq. Part of the problem with breaking things is that there is no way to put it totally back together (it's a given that Iraq was broke already with Saddam's rule, by the way).<br /><br />That being the case, we begin to try to set things a-right by doing what we learned in kindergarten: We apologize for further breaking it. We admit our mistakes. We ask for help setting things as right as we can as a global community.<br /><br />How's that for starters?<br /><br />I recognize it's just a start and that it is an incomplete answer, but as I've said, when someone has been going about breaking things, there are not always clear-cut solutions to fixing them. The important thing is to stop the breaking.<br /><br />Regardless if you like my answer, I think the Bush supporters out there need to recognize this is the new reality. The US disapproves of Bush's policy and he won't be given the chance to keep on breaking things.<br /><br />And if we are awkward in going about trying to fix what Bush and Saddam have broken, keep in mind who broke it and don't blame those trying to fix it.Dan Trabuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.com